Omer Bartov, a renowned Israeli-American scholar of Holocaust and Genocide Studies at Brown University, says that Israel’s treatment of Palestinians in Gaza meets the criteria for genocide, demonstrating a clear intent for ethnic cleansing, fueled by dehumanizing rhetoric.
While Germany faced its Holocaust guilt with deep introspection, the question remains: can Israeli society ever do the same for the suffering it has inflicted on Palestinians? Bartov tells Imran Garda that only a political process within Israel can pave the way for genuine regret and meaningful change.
On this episode of The InnerView, Imran Garda asks Bartov whether a recent ceasefire is a step toward lasting peace or just a fleeting pause.
Read Omer Bartov’s article in The Guardian here: https://www.theguardian.com/world/article/2024/aug/13/israel-gaza-historian-omer-bartov
00:00 Meet Omer Bartov
01:08 Bartov’s piece in The Guardian
01:40 The US support for Israel
03:33 Comparing the US in World War II to Netanyahu’s actions in the Gaza war
05:15 Why does Bartov believe Israel’s committing genocide?
07:23 The use and misuse of Holocaust analogies
09:28 The October 7 Hamas attack
10:50 How Israeli society has changed since the Holocaust
14:42 Insights from the Ehud Olmert interview
15:07 "I am not optimistic": The Israel-Hamas ceasefire deal
17:08 On why accountability for international crimes is crucial
19:12 Western guilt: A look at Germany and the US
21:35 Will Israelis one day feel the collective guilt?
24:27 "Israel must archive Zionism as state policy”
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