Avi Shlaim tells Imran Garda that Zionism has transformed into a relentless killing machine. He describes the violence Israel has unleashed in Gaza as unlimited, unrestrained, and indiscriminate. How did things come to this?
Shlaim, an Iraqi-born British-Israeli historian and Oxford professor, dives deep into this question in his latest book, Genocide in Gaza: Israel’s Long War on Palestine. He argues that Israel’s policy toward Palestinians has gone beyond land grabs and forced displacement, calling it outright genocide.
On this episode of The InnerView, Shlaim reflects on the moment that compelled him to write the book. He also discusses why he believes the two-state solution is no longer possible, and how he thinks people will remember the ongoing conflict a century from now.
00:00 Meet Avi Shlaim
01:20 Writing Genocide in Gaza and why he believes Israel is committing genocide
05:55 “The last gasp of Israeli violence”
10:02 On Ben Gvir
13:15 How people will perceive the Israel-Gaza war and our world in 100 years
18:45 One-state solution?
22:42 Muslim and Jewish coexistence
24:39 “I am the real Ibrahim Al Baghdadi”
25:05 Speaking out about Israel and Gaza
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