In this episode of In Conversation, Chris Smalls — former president of the Amazon Labor Union and prominent activist — reflects on his recent journey aboard the Handala Flotilla and the moments he says he was confronted with racism by Israeli forces after being taken from the vessel in international waters while attempting to break the siege on Gaza.
Smalls discusses how what he witnessed across the region shaped his understanding of global solidarity.
The conversation moves from his experiences on the flotilla to Amazon’s role in the war through Project Nimbus, the wider tech industry’s complicity, and the growing wave of worker organising across the United States, including at Starbucks.
Filmed in New York, the interview captures a year of dramatic political change — and Smalls outlines what he plans to do next as he continues to fight for justice, from Palestine to the American workplace.
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